Wednesday, May 2, 2012

MIstborn: The Final Empire Group Read Part IV

Hello Everyone! This week's questions were supplied by Lynn over at Lynn's Book Blog - so stop by and check out her answers. Another big thanks to Stainless Steel Droppings for pulling this whole group read together! This section takes us through the end of Chapter 34 and there are SPOILERS, everywhere. You will probably step on, stumble over, and end up falling on them. Body armor will not help you. Next week, we will be concluding this book, so check back here next Wednesday for that.


1.       Well, we finally got our long awaited view of the Lord Ruler, firstly just a brief glimpse during the executions and then during the fight with Kelsier.  What do you now think about him and the myth’s surrounding him?  And, given his strength do you think he can be beaten?

Damn. Triple damn. He is real, and he hits hard! And has great fashion sense.

Yet, everything has a weakness; maybe not physical. So, yes, by the end of the trilogy, I expect there to be some way to get to him. Poison powder in his tailored undergarments? 

2.       We seemed to suffer a number of set backs to the plans this week.  The army had already been all but destroyed and following a bit of a rethink/regroup/coming up with a Plan B, things still have gone disastrously astray.  What do you think the Crew will do now?

I am hoping that the death of one of the rebellion's leaders after he defeated a steel inquisitor will rally the Skaa. I want the word to grow to legend and spread throughout Luthadel and then throughout the countryside, reaching all Skaa in the Final Empire. I want Sazed to send secret word to all Terrismen to rally with the Skaa. I want plantation work to cease, and hence food production. I want the government of the Final Empire to come to its knees!

I have a lot of wants because I am a complicated person.

Seriously - that last loss in the square was harsh. I am hoping that the Skaa rally, instead of scatter. I wonder if Vin will become the new driving force, and if she will join forces with Elend. That could be a formidable team. 

3.       What was your reaction to Kelsier’s response to finding Marsh dead?  I can’t help feeling that there are going to be some serious economic repercussions to destroying the crystals – what sort of impact do you think this will have, not just on the nobles but on the Skaa?

The Pits of Hathsin were the only atium mines that WE knew about. There could be other mines, that would be kept just as secret.

However, if these were the only mines, then there is less reason for the Skaa. I think things will become more oppressive for the Skaa, that those Skaa that are craftsmen (like Clubs) will be shunned by the ruling parties, if not burned out.

And there will be less shiny metal for the nobility to flash around. But that's OK, since we saw the last ball for some time. The nobility can play with their shiny things inprivate, including what little atium they have. 

Mistborns may be strongly affected - no more seeing 2 seconds into the future. Those that have hoarded atium will have an edge over those who have not.

4.       Finally, each week we learn a little bit more of the Lord Ruler’s history.  And each week it has a different impact.  This week’s snippets had the same impact – I was really interested in the excerpt when he mentions that the Darkness is not as oppressive when higher up in the mountains – do you have any more ideas about the Darkness?

That Darkness seems to be a bigger deal than The Lord Ruler. the terms 'Well of Ascension' and 'The Deepness' are still big unknowns. I theorize that The Lord Ruler has become what he is today by near-constant contact with the Deepness - holding it at bay. It has twisted him, made him cruel. I think this is tied to the atium production somehow. I think The Lord Ruler is not simply hoarding it, but using it in some fashion to stay in power, and perhaps to fight The Deepness.

But I might just be blowing wind up your kilts. 

5.   I was wondering about Elend and Vin – they’ve also had their ups and downs this week but seem determined to work round them – can you see anything of a future for these two or is there too much history between the nobles and Skaa and too much difference and prejudice between the two?

I am SO hoping that they can at least be allies. The Skaa rebellion needs all the help it can get and it looks like, with the destruction of the atium mines, House Venture, especially Elend (with his dad wishing him ill), needs an ally.

It would knock Elend's socks off to know Vin is Mistborn, and protected him. Ha! It would knock more than his socks off - probably his pants too. Which would be socially embarrassing. So I hope he finds out when he is sitting down. 

Other Bits of Interest:

Why is Vin the only doughnut at a sausage fest? 

Vin kicks ass. That scene where she tears off her ballgown and accoutrements and goes assassin hunting was awesome. I bet she will consider concealing a knife or two in the future.

Marsh got the beginner's eye tattoos! Now I have a finger tattoo, but getting the face, especially near the eyes, tatted takes some nerves of steal. Or Prozac.


  1. This sums it up for me:  
    Damn. Triple damn. He is real, and he hits hard!  

    I can't wait to find out about the Deepness.  I agree with you, it has to be a bigger deal than the Lord Ruler.  

  2. Yeah - if The Lord Ruler is a triple damn moment, the Deepness is going to be a Fuck, No!!!! moment. 

  3. might be right!  

  4. I was just thinking that we need to consult Locke on how to kill the Lord Ruler - and you came up with the poison in his underpants scenario!  Wicked.
    You sneaky person - thinking there is another mine!  Sneaking!
    I hate the Lord Ruler - but, I think Vin is going to kick is arse. 
    Your final comments made me think that maybe Vin and Elend coming together could help everyone to start seeing things differently.  They're young and rebellious after all so they could make it work and it would be a great example wouldn't it - one of the top nobles with a Skaa/mistborn!
    Lynn :D

  5. I loved the scene where Vin killed Shan. Especially after all her years of being bullied by her brothers and on her thieving crews, she finally got her revenge and in the most awesome way possible -- she beat someone who by all accounts should have had the upper hand. I think it's hilarious that she recovered her torn dress too. Wouldn't want to leave that sitting around!

  6.  Vin is awesome. But I was wondering why she is basically the only female character that we are getting serious time with. We learned a little about Kliss and Shan, but now Shan is dead. No female obligators or inquisitors. It's a minor criticism, since I am enjoying the book so much.

    The possibility of poisoned undergarments is exactly why I go al naturale in certain situations.

  7.  Hopefully she also picked up her corset and long undies. Can you imagine being on boring guard rounds, and finding those? Hmmm....

    Vin just kicks ass. I look forward to seeing more action scenes with her stomping arrogant jerks into the ground.

  8. I guess the dress could due used to identify her, but the undies were less well known tot he general public? :D

  9. It is true that we haven't met any other females that aren't unpleasant. I hope that this will change in the 2nd and 3rd books.

  10. And Sazed commenting on propriety with the underwear made the whole scene complete.

  11.  Interesting thought regarding a second mine. I don't know how likely it is since he'd still need Skaa to work it and the news would probably get around at the very least of them vanishing. Although I suppose it's possible still.

    We'll have to see I guess! :)

  12. LOL I think I've liked your comments the best of any I've read so far. :D Yes, the Lord Ruler has fantastic fashion sense, and that scene where Vin kills Shan? YES!

  13. Well, I suppose there could always be an undiscovered mine?  However, as I've been off the mark with just about all of my predictions so far this is highly unlikely!
    Lynn :D

  14. I couldn't think anything but "holy crap!" when it was revealed just how incredibly powerful TLR really was.  I didn't expect anything of that magnitude.  Now of course I still believed he had some kind of weakness, wouldn't be much of a story otherwise, but boy did that scene shake my faith in the ability of the crew to triumph over him.

    You could be right in that contact with the Deepness has colored and warped TLR.  Whatever it is, I have a feeling it is going to be really bad news for our band of heroes!

  15.  Vin is awesome. But I was wondering why she is basically the only female character that we are getting serious time with. We learned a little about Kliss and Shan, but now Shan is dead. No female obligators or inquisitors. It's a minor criticism, since I am enjoying the book so much.

    The possibility of poisoned undergarments is exactly why I go al naturale in certain situations.